For some of the more conservative thinkers in IT departments, managing those bounadries, which si, I suppose, what you call governance, becomes apramount. EDS hsa, as you point out, cloud resources, valuse, and services and HP has governance. ... If you wanted to compare that to this new spectrum of options outsourcing, cloud, SaaS you need to have a pretty good handle on whta your true costs are internally. How does that bear on bringing about a ratioanl and ...